>> reporter: i'm learning that president obama and house speaker john boehner had a phone conversation late today. we do not have a fiscal deal. there's been no significant movement as a result of this, it's meaningful, the two men have not spoken in a week exactly. their last phone call was last wednesday, as you know, speaker boehner presented a plan on monday and after that was rejected by the president. in an interview, there was no communication between the white house and republicans until this phone call between these two men. wolf, this comes the same day that secretary geithner said publicly for the first time, that the u.s. would be willing to go over the cliff if republicans do not agree to raise tax rates on the top two percent of earners. it's my understanding that republicans have not agreed to raise those rates and the white house is not negotiating essentially, wolf, until they see republicans make that move. >> jeszic ka, the things obviously could be getting more complex as you know, president obama wants to add the debt ceiling to the multiple issues already on the t